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In High Alignment with Kerry Walsh
In High Alignment with Kerry Walsh
Ep. 8- 20 Years Post-Cancer Diagnosis: I'm Still Learning These 3 Things
Twenty years ago, everything changed with the three words, " You have leukemia."
This episode might not be for everyone, and it's ok if you choose not to tune in - your instincts know best. We'll walk through the day leading up to and day of my diagnosis, then walk through the fear and hope that came with my leukemia diagnosis and treatment. I dive into the support that was so crucial to my survival, particularly in the form of my social worker Joan and her invaluable knowledge about how to care for the humans this diagnosis would affect (aka my whole family, not only me).
This path didn't end with the physical healing. It extended into unlearning deep beliefs, reintegration and coming home to my body, and a reclamation of my voice and my story. I'll share the techniques I learned for coming back home to my body and how I learned to recognize when I wanted to dissociate. And yes, we'll even talk about time, the relentless urge to obsess over work, and the importance of listening to the quiet (or sometimes loud) cues your body is trying to tell you, and how to recognize them.
What kept me going through it all? What tools and modalities assisted my healing process? Tune in to hear all about it. This episode is packed with emotion, lessons learned, and the grueling but ultimately worthy path of healing. 20 years after being diagnosed, these are the things I know to be true.
This is the High Alignment Podcast – and this episode is full of bit of my heart and lessons from scars.
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Trigger Warning this episode is going to be all about my cancer diagnosis and reflections on the journey that began 20 years ago this past summer. If this is an episode that's not going to be supportive for you to listen to right now, then please, as always, trust your inner knowing and take this episode off. I will catch you on the next one. I had to start and stop writing this episode. So many times I had to move my body, go for walks, just get up for my desk and walk around the apartment or the block, or stand up and shake it out and then walk away. I had to orient myself to my room and come back to present day. A lot I had to remind my body that we are not there anymore and I had to take longer breaks, sometimes days or a week or more at a time, from writing this episode to let myself reset and then come back again. I actually had a crazy hip pain flare-up. That was definitely linked to my recent move and lack of body work, but also related to writing this episode and all that it stirred up from those years on treatment and then recovering from it and how, every summer, instead of having a normal real breakthrough, most of high school I was getting surgery. It's wild how our bodies were culturonus, as separated as I am from my diagnosis and treatment, and as much body work as I've done around healing from these specific scars, both the physical and the mental and emotional ones, all of the stuff that my treatment left behind, and as much energy, healing and therapy as I've done about it all, I can be right back in that cancer clinic in an instant. I'm 20 years out and yet when it's just me writing and recording the experience can feel so current in my body. Not every time I worked on the episode brought me back there, though.
Kerry:One of the biggest signs of growth for me in this reflection exercise was that I was sure to give myself a lot of space and compassion and love and allow whatever feelings that were presenting themselves to come up and come through, whether that meant I was time-traveling back 20 years or staying present in today. Both happened at different times and both were allowed and okay, I didn't have any shame or thoughts that I used to have of ugh, come on, I've worked through this already. Why is this still so heavy to talk about? No judgment came up this time, just observation and care, and so so much love for the younger me that went through it all Curiosity, interest, love, yes, but shame no, because it was hard, it was scary, it was heavy. I mean, how could it not be? There were real moments of life and death being able to slow down and take inventory of what feelings were coming up, to name them, hold them and let them go to me. That's the tangible proof of all of the healing work I've been doing over the last handful of years working. This didn't happen overnight and I had a lot of support, so I promise I will walk through the healing tools and modalities that helped me process at the end of this episode so you can look into any of them that pique your interest and feel potentially supportive to.
Kerry:But I wanted to share my experience of creating this episode behind the scenes, if you will, as a gentle nudge to build in more time and space to pause and little reminders to take inventory of what's coming up for you, especially when you know what you have to do might be hard or heavy. Plan for the additional care, if you can, and additional time that you'll need Overestimate, overestimate. And if you need less time, great, and if you need more time, also great. This is the dance of being a human and getting to know yourself more and more each moment, each day. Be gentle with yourself and know that, as you do take more time to pause and take inventory of your feelings inventory just meaning you notice what's coming up, you can start to name things and if you haven't read Atlas of the Heart, vibrant A Brown, she does an amazing job of giving words to feelings in so many more than the general sad, happy, angry, etc. That we're used to Take that time to pause, take inventory of your feelings. You don't have to do anything with them, just take notes, either mental notes or physical notes, with pen and paper, electronically on your phone or computer.
Kerry:The goal here is just to get to know what your own cues are, your own cues and clues, if you will, so you can start to draw patterns with what they're telling you. So if you can start to notice your cues more and more in your day to day, this is one way that you're going to grow in communication with yourself. Space notes, reflection patterns. You can take action when you're ready, which, remember, could be as simple as putting a hand to your heart, as I'm doing right now. But know that just building in pauses and taking inventory is a powerful and a brave place to begin. Give yourself a visual cue and reminder to start, like a post-it or a sticker or a game of a punch buggy, like if you see a green car, every time you see a green car, then that's your cue to take inventory of what you're doing. When you see that visual reminder, pause, take inventory. It'll become more and more natural as you practice, so you may not even need those visual reminders eventually, but it's a really, really good and effective way to build a habit.
Kerry:Anyway, I just wanted to share some of those behind the scenes of the process, of what it took to create this episode, before diving into today. Know that I believe in you, that I am here for you and I am proud of you. So here we go. So Borrow from the late great Robin Williams Ten thousand years will give you such a crick in the neck, just kidding, it's only been 20. 20 years since I was diagnosed with leukemia and my life was forever changed. It's so crazy to me to think about and say out loud, because those days on treatment feel like just yesterday and forever ago at the same time. Oh, the things that I would share with that sweet take on the world, fiery little redhead. Most of all, that she has time. And now, worry, her hair will come back red.
Kerry:So let's start from the beginning. On June 26, 2003, one day BC or before cancer in New Jersey, it was hot, humid and the air was ripe with regret. Just kidding, I was 11 and we lived in a regular old American suburb. What was there to regret? Absolutely nothing. That is what I just felt like. It was a good story opener.
Kerry:My mom took my little brother, tommy, and me, who was on the tail end of cold, and me, who was fighting off some kind of summer flu, to the doctor where she urged them to order a blood test for me. My mom had a brother who died of leukemia in the 50s, before she was born, and all she knew was he had bruises and then he died. Because in a Catholic family, when she was growing up, you did not talk about sad things unless it was through a vague traditional song. Otherwise, sad things were left off the table. Well, I had bruises the big bruise on the back of my left arm that wasn't going away, another on my right knee that had been there for a while and a slew of tiny pinprick bruises all over my body. I also had an aching pain in my left knee that had been bothering me for a few months and, with her mother's instinct, my mom just knew something wasn't right. Okay, my pediatrician said I'll order a blood test to calm your nerves, but try not to worry. I'm sure it's a summer, cold and growing pains. We've seen this a lot with kids around Carries Age. This week We'll call you in the morning with results.
Kerry:We got to the lab just before it closed and since I was sick and dehydrated and have very small veins to begin with, it was a tough blood draw. I had never had blood work done before and I hated needles. So, as you'd expect just to add a little insult to injury, I was also very tense. By the third stick I was in tears. I was so exhausted and angry I began slowly shaking my head from side to side. Keep moving your head, honey, that's helping, the lab tech said comfortingly, as that bit of movement somehow helped blood flow. The lab tech was able to get what she needed and I was free, until did I know that that was only the beginning of blood work and a lot of needles to come. So as a reward for braving that stink and blood test, my mom took me to a blockbuster RIP to pick out a movie. That night all of my siblings, my parents and I piled onto the couch downstairs and we watched them up its movie for the first time together. The rainbow connection will always bring me back to that night and the people I love most, blissfully unaware of what the next day would bring.
Kerry:So on June 27th 2003, the day that I would be diagnosed, my sisters and I were all signed up for summer fun, the local educational summer camp. While Tommy was cleared of sickness and so then off to his amazing daycare provider, my mom was teaching summer school. She's a high school math teacher and her dad had a typical engineers nine to five. So when little of me was sick enough to stay home which again was very sick we did not stay home for just anything. It was fever, coughing tissues, dents, dot, body aches, the works.
Kerry:I went across the street to the one and only Miss Diane's house, our neighbor who had a daughter my sister's age, who was essentially a second mom to us. So I'm chilling over at Miss Diane's house to settle into the day of watching movies on the couch and the cold, cold air conditioning. I didn't know like how good it feels to be in that cold AC on a hot summer day. And then she picked up the phone and looked at me and immediately my stomach dropped. Now Miss Diane is literally a child psychologist and played a cool, calm and collected and I was still very suspicious and, I might say, not thrilled that my movie day had just flown out the window because she said my mom was going to come home and take me to another doctor because they just wanted to do a little bit more testing to find out why I'm not feeling well. I knew I knew that meant more needles again and your girl did not do needles back then. But let me tell you, I learned very quickly how to down regulate my heart rate and lose my muscles because they would become almost a daily requirement over the next three years. So my mom picked me up and then we walked into a building with the sign hematology oncology outside, having not a clue at the time what that meant, and prepared for another needle filled testing day. We had my mom's laptop and I brought my latest obsession on DVD, spirit Stallion of the Simeron, whereas one little girl at the clinic called it the horsey movie. And then, shortly after we got there, my dad showed up and I knew that this was not a good sign. Shit must be bad if dad left work for this, but hey, he brought Philly pretzels. So a win Fast forward to the end of the day.
Kerry:I woke up, groggy from a sedative, to see my mom, dad and Ann Karen and an unfamiliar but kind looking woman looking down at me Another cue that things were really bad. If Ann Karen was there, it meant that my mom needed her big sister's support, and my mom already had the strength of diamonds all on her own. I sat up slowly, my lower back sore from the lumbar puncture they did to make the official diagnosis, and braced myself for whatever was about to be said. Next, carrie, the unfamiliar woman named Joan, the clinic social worker in my future BFF, said you have leukemia. I immediately burst into tears. I could see everyone else had tears in their eyes too, including Joan. But after what felt like an eternity she asked Carrie, why are you crying? To which I thought what do you mean? Why am I crying? Lady, clearly you have more experience with this than I do. You should know that leukemia equals death. I have seen a walk to remember, but my super polite good girl self said well then, that means I'm going to die. The girl in a walk to remember has leukemia and she dies. So that's what's going to happen to me too, right? And Joan, the six foot tall, dark-haired, middle-aged woman with a rock solid presence she was an absolute queen Chocked to herself, shook her head, sighed and said I really hate that movie. Now, this was a hard blow to my Mandy and Shane forever loving heart. Joan had a seemingly hopeful and contrary response about the whole dying thing, so I waited for her to say more.
Kerry:Joan then magically pulled out a felt diagram of a bone with red and white and yellow circles all over it to symbolize blood cells inside the bone marrow. She went on to explain how healthy white blood cells look like this and held up a white dot that looked like a little pac-man with its mouth open. And unhealthy white cells look like this. And she held up another white dot that was mostly a circle but with just a small indent in it, or like this, and pulled out another white dot that was small and shaped like a crescent moon. So when there's leukemia cells in the bone marrow.
Kerry:Instead of there being a healthy mix of red, white and yellow platelet cells, there are all of these white, not fully formed or properly formed, unhealthy leukemia cells that multiply really fast and take over the bone marrow. So there's not room for all of the healthy red, white, blood and yellow platelets that you need. That's why you have ruses. That's why they haven't healed the way that they would have before you had leukemia, and these leukemia cells still go over your bone marrow. You don't have enough platelets in your system to heal them right now and that's why you've been really tired. You don't have as many healthy red blood cells to give you energy and pull oxygen all over your body and why you've gotten sick with this cold. You don't have those healthy white immune cells that bite off an infection, because the unhealthy white leukemia cells have taken up a lot of space in your bone marrow and pushed out all the healthy cells. Does that make sense? I nodded, taking in every word. But the good news is she continued there's an effective treatment for leukemia now, unlike back in the 50s when a walk to her member was supposed to be set in. So we can very likely fix this and get your blood levels balanced out again so you can feel better. The specific kind of leukemia you have acute lymphoblastic leukemia responds really really well to treatment, but the treatment also kills all fast growing cells. So since that's what leukemia is, that's what leukemia cells are, you might lose your hair too, but don't worry, it'll grow back.
Kerry:Joan went on to explain that I would have to go to the hospital tonight and the hospital team would get me ready to start treatment in the next day or so. I could go home and get some things and she gave my parents a list of what to bring, but the hospital team already knew to expect me and they'd be there waiting and welcoming me into my own private room as soon as I arrived. Joan also told me about Camp no Worries, a free one week long summer camp for patient siblings and bereaved siblings in the Pine Barrens of New Jersey, and that I would get a wish from the Make-A-Wish Foundation. These were key pieces of information for my treatment journey, because I would go on to spend a lot of time dreaming about what to do for my wish and looking forward to making it to Camp no Worries each summer, scheduling anything else around that last week of June. For the rest of her time here on Earth, joan was the guide, confidant, support and person who led me and my whole family through my treatment, my teens and many an identity crisis in my early 20s. Joan passed away in 2021, and she was, and always will be, my hero.
Kerry:So when the sedative had worn off enough and I was able to get up, we went home. When we walked in the door, my siblings were all sitting on the stairs my big sister, mary Kate, who was 13, eileen, who was 9, maureen, or Moe as we call her, who was 6, and Tommy, who was just about a year and a half or so, was on Mary Kate's lap. They had clearly received some of the news. I could tell that they had been crying and I can't remember if it was my dad or Ms Diane who told them, but I just remember looking at them and saying don't worry, I'm going to be okay, it's just going to take a little while. Side note this became my famous line and I get a wish from this place called the Make A Wish Foundation. So let's start dreaming of where we all want to go on a free vacation. To me, as soon as I learned about it. The wish was always for all of us, it was never just for me. We ultimately went to the Grand Wailet Resort in Maui between Christmas and New Year's, right after our IPNS treatment, and it was an absolute dream come true. It was incredible.
Kerry:So off to the hospital my mom and I went, june 27, 2003, initiated a two and a half turned three year chemotherapy protocol to get rid of and keep away the leukemia that had taken over my body. So much happened in those three years. So much happened after those three years. I learned about life and hope and tenacity and survival, about death and visions and near death experiences and restarting life. I learned so much about bodily autonomy and boundaries and speaking up for myself. And, yes, naturally there were times when I felt like I did not want to go on.
Kerry:I remember one specific night sitting on my bed about halfway through treatment, absolutely exhausted, frustrated and just feeling done. I had just recovered from a four month ICU stay and was back on chemo again. I was so sick for those months in the ICU that I had to stop treatment, which is why that two and a half year protocol turned into three. So ICU stay is a whole story in and of itself, which we'll probably get into in another episode. I just don't want this one to be a million years long.
Kerry:But that night my mom came into my room to give me my nighttime chemo and I said to her with tears in my eyes, mom, I don't want to do this anymore. And she hugged me and I cried into her and she said I know, I know, but you're doing so well just one day at a time, right? And my angsty 12 year old self cried into her. But you don't know, oh man, that poor baby. I was really going through it and my ever patient, loving and gracious mom said to me you're right, I don't know, but I know you and I know that you can do this and it sucks and it hurts and it's hard, but you know that you're going to be okay. It's just going to take a little while, right? You said that you know that and I'm here and you can lean on me and I'll do everything I can to help you through this. Okay, you're doing so so well. And I cried for a while and then calm down enough to take that chemo pill and hugged my mom goodnight. Let's make sure you see, joan, when we go to the clinic this week, okay, you said standing at the bedroom door and I did. And, mom, because I know you're listening to this, I love you. Thank you for making sure I was getting the mental health support I needed, along with the physical health stuff. I know my relationship with calling in support, especially for mental health, was established positively early on because of you.
Kerry:So, as I think about some of the biggest unlearning, reintegration, reclamation work I've had to do since finishing treatment almost exactly three years later on June 24th 2006, these are the big three that resonate most in the season of my life now, I've had to learn how to hold and feel the deep understanding and truth that I am healthy and my body is a safe place for me to be and to stay. So so much of my survival required me to leave my body and dissociate from what I was experiencing. It's how I was able to get through really painful procedures, how I was able to manage daily excruciating pain and three years of movement, even though my left hip was fully collapsed and my right hip wasn't far behind Then how I got through the recovery of that double hip replacement that I needed and all the other surgeries. It was useful. But after so much practice leaving my body when pain showed up, whether physical or emotional, it took me years to recognize when it was happening, instead of it just happening automatically, and then be able to stay instead of fly out and leave as soon as something became painful. I was probably 24 or 25 by the time I started working with a myofascial release specialist who helped me ease and release old traumas from scar tissue and reintegrate into my skin, to learn what it felt like to stay, to really recognize when those slip outs started, and interventions like pressing my hands into my thighs and putting that hand to my heart and letting them hang so I could feel the weight of my own hands on me, help hold me in place. I'm still working on it, but I can recognize quickly now when I want to pull out and give myself the chance to make a more active decision of whether to go or not.
Kerry:Dissociating is a safety mechanism and, like I said, it is a useful one. Sometimes, in the times when I opt to create some distance and step out of my body because there's really big feelings happening, it's always, always with a premise to come back in 5 minutes, 10 minutes, and then I stick to that. I usually don't need more than 10 minutes and then I can calm down and feel safe enough to reintegrate and hold and process those feelings. This is the dance and relationship that I've been building with my body. It's wild and working and easier some days than others, but it is a worthy relationship to work on. I want to gently invite you to work on building your relationship with your body too, if you're up for it.
Kerry:The body you're in right now it's the only one that you get. It's the only one that you'll have for the rest of your life. So call and support okay At the beginning. Especially, I highly recommend finding a myofascialist specialist or someone trained in polyvagal theory. If you're looking and ready to find somebody to do that, body work with Google is a really good place to start. They may even take your insurance. Look on your insurance directory. The new person that I found that's local to our home in North Carolina is actually fully covered by insurance. It doesn't have to be a big monetary expense. But also know that every dollar that you invest in yourself is worth every single penny.
Kerry:Number two, that I have time. This is the most complex one for me to wrestle with the most dug in hook that is slowly, slowly coming out. I don't know if it's more because of the survival and all the ICU stuff where I literally flatline multiple times, or the survivor's guilt and pressure that I felt for so long to honor my friends who passed by quote living life to the fullest for them, or if it's the old ADHD time blindness, but most likely some combination of them all. But in all of its complexity I really, really struggle to set long term goals, a dream or vision for the future. Cool, got it on it, just put a five year stamp on it. Like where do you see yourself in five years? I melt, I'm gone, literally thoughts of I don't know, I might not even be here anymore. And that's not to say that is not because of anything I would do. That's not what I'm saying. It is more so. Anything could happen to anyone at any time. So sometimes planning for five years seems silly to me.
Kerry:We only know and have today, which can and has for me, turned into extreme hyper focus over work, taking advantage of the time you get before it runs out, because it can run out at any time, or flip of the switch kind of behavior. It was an unhealthy extreme and, at its core, holds some truth. It was especially problematic because it's achievement driven, which is so rewarded in our society, and sure, good things came from it and can come from that type of focus, but at what cost? At the cost of your health, your happiness, your friendships, your relationships, which is why this hook has taken so long to come out. There's truth there. We don't know what tomorrow will bring. Anything could happen.
Kerry:But I can only control a certain set of variables. Before I have to let go of the rest and trust just trust that I'm supported and held in going to be okay. So what's in my control? What's in any of our control? My actions, for the most part, since I run my own business, my day to day, how I show up and interact with others in the world and, like I said, I definitely took these to an extreme level for a while. So I'm learning what a healthy level of each variable looks like for me and knowing that it can and probably will change consistently. So what's my indicator of a healthy level right now? It's my body.
Kerry:Does something make me feel a spark, or satisfying, or vibrant and light, or does it make me feel restricted and dreadful and small. Going to a flower farm for a cute date with my husband yes, vibrant. Recording a podcast episode, spark for sure. Coming up and sending off a gallery, sometimes satisfying and sometimes constricting. This has been such a helpful indicator for me, though, because it works in combination with number one and being safe and trusting in my body. The answers change day to day, morning to afternoon, so even when there's something on my docket that I know I have to do, I can trust that it will get done without having to force myself through something that feels extra constricting. I'm better at this some days than others, but I'm also getting better at making progress over time. Time. I have time for progress and changes to be made and really sink in, even if it takes a while or if it takes no time at all. It can be both ways, because I have time. Number three that my voice is my own and it's okay to use, just because I have something to share. If you listened back on episode one, then you know that this podcast is, in its essence, a reclamation of my voice.
Kerry:I've always championed others. I get super, super passionate and productive, and claws come out when I'm advocating for or defending the people I love. This is a big way. I spent my time post diagnosis I mean literally within weeks of being diagnosed that first hospital stay I was interviewed for the Children's Miracle Network, radio THON, and I spoke on behalf of Camp no Worries for years after that at camp for media coverage at fundraising events, I spoke for the Make-A-Wish Foundation and then the Leukemia Lymphoma Society, and the first role of my career was specifically raising money for leukemia patients and research at a hospital that was just across the town from where I was treated. My leukemia experience became so intertwined with the sale to support these foundations that it felt like the only thing that was interesting or meaningful about me, the only thing worth listening to and what gave me depth and credibility.
Kerry:And, just like the point about having time, this belief has taken a long time to unhook from because it was reinforced for so long, really for the last 20 years. I mean, if it comes up and I share with someone that I had leukemia, then I notice the shift in them. I'm automatically interesting and I have something to share and say and be heard about. I mean, come on, I'm making this episode and I already know it's going to be one of the most listened to, and that's okay. The point is that now, when I do share pieces of my story, it is on my own terms and the way that I want to share it.
Kerry:Yes, having a life-threatening diagnosis at 11 years old changes you. It teaches you lessons that you otherwise may never learn and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. But it crystallizes priorities very quickly and gives you a perspective on life and on death very fast. I want to share those lessons and perspectives and stories just because I want to. If they resonate with you, amazing, I'm so happy and I hope that there's some helpful takeaways. But just like I say at the end of every Reiki session or reading that I do just take what resonates and leaves a rest, not everything that I share is going to be for everyone. Some of it will resonate and some of it won't, but all of it will be because I needed to share it. I needed to for me as a radical act of self-love and recognition and reclamation that, if nothing else, I am listening to my own voice and I'm making my own stage. And this is where my brain cuts to Merida in Brave, saying and I'll be shooting for my own hand. So are there other lessons that I've learned from having leukemia as an adolescent and young teen? Absolutely, but 20 years later, these are the lessons that are most present with me today. Number one I am safe in my body. Number two I have time to live and do everything I dream of doing. And number three, that my voice and my story are my own, to do with as I wish. And so to call back to the beginning of the episode and share some tools that helped me get here, in case they are helpful for you, in no specific order, here you go.
Kerry:Number one therapy or counseling, traditional talk therapy, or, if you can find someone who specializes in trauma and somatic work, if that's what you need, I highly suggest it. I'm starting with a new therapist next week and just for additional support because I moved and we got married and just some big transitions in life and I am really excited Because, again, my mom and Joan really reinforced that it is useful and positive to call in health support even when really good things are going on. It's just helpful, it's good for you. Number two myofascial release and, specifically scar work. That's going to change the game. My girl, christa Clear in New Jersey, is one of the very best, and I am so insanely grateful for my new body worker here in Asheville who combines myofascial and massage and chiropractic and craniosacral work. She is a unicorn and fully covered by our insurance, like what Most of these practitioners the therapist, as well as Sarah we found through our insurance's website. If you have insurance, that's a great place for you to start. Just look through the practitioners that are covered.
Kerry:Number three movement or working out, specifically moving away. That purely ignites fun and joy and is new and has novelty to it for you. For me, it needed to be something that I wouldn't judge myself for based on past benchmarks. Pick out some kind of new movement for you. Try a few classes, even if it's Zumba or Pilates or a body weight circuit on YouTube or a free app. There are so many free fitness things online and lots for you to dive into. Figure out what you like first, before doing anything paid. Number four check out the book Burnout the Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Emily and Abelia Nagoski. It is packed with helpful tools and info and solid scientific background for why we have continued stress. Long story short, adding a 20 minute walk at the end of the day or after a really activating event think like fighting through traffic to get home, or a stressful meeting at work, or a nonstop day of putting out fires with your kids. Take a 20 minute walk, because it will make all the difference in completing that stress cycle, instead of pushing it off and pushing it down and then piling on again tomorrow.
Kerry:I could go on for a while, but I don't want to overwhelm you with options, so I will stop here To end this reflection.
Kerry:I just want to say thank you for tuning in, for coming back again, episode after episode, even as I am still figuring out cadence and the audio and the details of this podcast and what it will become. Still here you are showing up to listen. You're a part of my reclamation and I really can't thank you enough for doing this with me. So until next time, remember to give yourself space to take inventory of how you're feeling, where you are and what cues and clues are coming up for you to indicate a shift in your energy. Whatever that means for you. All my love Bye.
Kerry:Thanks for tuning in again to the In High Alignment podcast. This was a big episode. This was a big episode. It was one that took me most of the summer really all summer to write the script for and reflect on and make sure that what I wanted to say was included and it made sense, and I gave it the time that it deserved and I'm really happy with it. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for continuing to join me on this journey, and you mean the world to me, and until next time, remember to stay in high alignment.